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Zij blijven achter in Vught en gaan met een van de laatste transporten in september 1944 via Auschwitz naar een werkkamp waar zij voor Telefunken werkten.<br>Een vrouw, Anny Sulzbach, vertelt (in ‘Moeder en kind’) hoe moeilijk het leven in het kamp was voor haar tweejarig dochtertje en hoe ziek de kinderen waren van heimwee en ellende. Zij gaan met het kindertransport, maar worden in Westerbork uit de trein gehaald.<br>Een man, Jacques Furth, vertelt (in ‘Het kind dat moest onderduiken’) hoe opgelucht hij is dat zijn zoon is ondergedoken. Zijn vrouw, die de kampen niet overleefde en zijn zoon, Dave Furth, op latere leeftijd, verwijten hem dat hij het kind niet bij zich heeft gehouden.</p><p>Het wetenschappelijk belang van deze getuigenissen is groot. Er zijn weinig ooggetuigenverslagen van de kindertransporten uit Vught, die gelden als een zeer uitzonderlijke gebeurtenis in de geschiedenis van de Jodenvervolging in Nederland. De achtergrond van de rigoureuze beslissing om in één keer alle kinderen te deporteren ligt in de aard van kamp Vught. Concentratiekamp Vught was tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog het enige SS-concentratiekamp buiten Nazi-Duitsland en het door Duitsland geannexeerde gebied. Mannen, vrouwen en kinderen werden in aparte barakken geplaatst, in tegenstelling tot in Polizeiliches Durchgangslager Westerbork waar de Joodse gezinnen bijeen konden blijven. Binnen het brute kampregime in het Joodse deel van kamp Vught waren kinderen het meest kwetsbaar; ze zorgden voor veel ziekten en – in de ogen van de SS’ers – overlast. Dit heeft waarschijnlijk een rol gespeeld in de plotselinge deportatie.</p><p>Naar voren komt dat alle geïnterviewden van hun familieleden gescheiden werden zodra ze in Durchgangslager Herzogenbusch kwamen. Vanaf dat moment is men op zichzelf aangewezen. Communicatie met elkaar en met de buitenwereld is er nauwelijks tot niet. 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